Required fields are marked *. CINDY: Uh huh. Robert chased after his intended victim, but it was no use. FLOTHE: The same person. Hudgens: It depended on the scene. By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. Hudgens: Nothing that I want to talk about quite yet. I overslept. View the profiles of professionals named "Cindy Paulson" on LinkedIn. And Ill give you one guess as to who fit the bill perfectly! I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? This was a secretive killer who is believed to have taken half of his murders with him to the grave. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. John A. Paulson founded Paulson & Co., an investment management firm based in New York. As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. Your email address will not be published. The Butcher Baker passed away of natural causes in August of 2014, he lived to be 75 years old. You enjoy my work and would like to read exclusive articles, you can join my Patreon for as little as $3! Only 12 bodies of the 17 women Hansen confessed to killing have been found. If she saw blood, well, that would also have made sense as her husband was a hunter. Robert Hansen is probably the most prolific serial in recent Alaskan history. Being in an office meant that team building happened naturally, and to re-create that connection virtually, takes a lot of To be authentic, inclusion needs action behind it. Once theyd arrived Robert left his handcuffed victim in the back seat of his vehicle while he loaded his aircraft as per usual; Cindy waited until her captor was distracted, and when she saw her chance she jumped out of the car and ran for her life! FLOTHE: How did you know this? He seemed really like a pretty good guy. Ducks and birds. I saw him the next day, Sunday. FLOTHE: Did you get into his car, or did he just get out or what? CINDY: The same person. This site is not free, I pay more than $300 just to keep this. She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. I personally loved it. They look at them in a very specific way. What about Gimme Shelter which is completed? FLOTHE: And then you overslept and consequently didnt meet him. CINDY: You know, I didnt feel nothing, cause I knew I wasnt gonna live. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. He spent many of the final years of his life working as a jailhouse barber. The only thing which he ever seemed to truly succeed in, the one thing which others commended him for, were his exceptional hunting skills. STEPHEN Don't just stick to the Malbec! FLOTHE: Do you feel that he was going to hurt you? FLOTHE: Youre positive. Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). And, getting to that point, its so powerful, she says. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. CINDY: Um hmm. FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? Like many killers he targeted transient women, they were often exotic dancers and sex workers; after hed charmed the woman of his choice and done his best to convince her of his harmlessness, Robert would talk her into leaving with him. But Cindy could feel California clients and BCs culture were becoming more open and it felt like the right time to be fully herself at work. Do not sell or share my personal information. Its nice because I can watch it from an outsiders perspective and be sucked into it, which is cool. Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. After he was released from prison, Robert decided that he needed to get as far away from Iowa as possible, so he moved near Anchorage, Alaska. FLOTHE: Like a station wagon? As was Hansens wont, he wanted to feel things out. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. You know, I was supposed to meet him. Hansens Weapon Cache (courtesy Alaska State Troopers; found in the attic of Hansens residence; note the handgun at center left), Your email address will not be published. First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. Mr Hoage said the woman was among cases of unidentified and missing people that were being reviewed by the center, with authorities receiving permission for the exhumation, the day before Hansen died. Your email address will not be published. Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. Brown and Caldwell's former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. Email khopkins@adn.com. FLOTHE: OK. Where were you at when you saw him on a Friday? Did he give you a sense of what he wanted and then get out of the way and let you follow your instincts as an actor? Process Intensification with BC:Ntensify, Technology and Innovation Leadership Team, Brown and Caldwell looks to the future of 75 years and counting, Black History Month and Engineers Week: Why I became an engineer. No comments have so far been submitted. Despite his growing rap sheet, Hansen escaped notice when Anchorage women soon began to disappear. This actually wasnt an uncommon thing for parents to do during this time period, plenty of us lefties in past generations were forced to conform, but apparently this deeply scarred this young man. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. What was your reaction when you first read the script? FLOTHE: OK. And when he pulled up, did you just go get in the car, or did you talk to him (pause) When did you first see this man, Cindy? CINDY: Uh huh. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. Police suspected the real death toll was even higher. When it was time for Hansen to go to prison, his plea agreement included a request, according to accounts at the time: He would do his time outside Alaska. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. Together they entertained colleagues at their home. FLOTHE: OK. Was it a blue color? And I was just running. CINDY: Yeah. CINDY: It was a black Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. CINDY: (interrupting) It was an older car. We all have the same needs. With Patreon you will receive exclusive posts and more, Morbid N' Macabre - 2023. He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. FLOTHE: Hairstyle? Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. Same with the two sexual assaults; I have an arrest date of December 1971, but as for the date of the crimes or whether he was arrested for both at the same time (which I assume to be the case) is unclear. CINDY: Cause they told me, the police officers had told me when we went to the hospital. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. What did you learn from them? (laughs) Its my monster of sorts. Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. Hansen said she had a knife in her purse. Eventually Robert did admit to having raped dozens, but would only confess to the murder of 17; he even lead police to the shallow graves of twelve more corpses. We must step back and reflect to see new opportunities for growth. FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. He was convicted of just four of the murders in a deal that spared him having to go to trial 17 times. Roberts father, an overbearing man who never did care to have a decent relationship with his son, expected young Robert to be busy at work in the familys bakery whenever he wasnt in school. CINDY: Right around Fourth and Denali. It seems that every source I looked at says something different, though generally within those three years. CINDY: Uh huh. Hansen later became one of the first prisoners at the newly opened Spring Creek Correctional Center, where he had remained until this year. Have you heard anything about a sequel to Journey 2 The Mysterious Island? CINDY: All right. He takes Paulson to a hospital and her clothes are kept for a rape Kit. It was plain. Kyle Hopkins is special projects editor of the Anchorage Daily News. CINDY: It was about maybe four in the morning, three-thirty in the morning. Cause at the time, I was very new to Alaska and I dont never go to anybodys house. I mean, bills, or did he just give you the change? This link contains non-graphic crime scene photos from Robert Hansen, it is mostly of the grave sites. Alaska's Missing Planes and People. And brown socks. Brown and Caldwells former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. Dont worry. Glenn Flothe, AST. The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. I said I could meet him at ten or else at eleven. CINDY: Tons This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Hansen died around 1:30 a.m. at Alaska Regional Hospital, said Sherrie Daigle, deputy director of administrative services for the Department of Corrections. A woman accused Hansen of rape in 1971, even as he awaited trial in a separate incident for following a stranger to her Spenard home and trying to kidnap her at gunpoint, according to Anchorage Daily News reports at the time. FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. CINDY: Like a new Seville. Hudgens: I think that theyre doing one. Hansens House, Old Harbor Road (copyright Leland E. Hale). I play Cereza which means Cherry in Spanish which says a lot about the character. He found an outlet for his feelings of sexual rejection and frustration through criminalityfirst via smaller displays of power like kleptomania, then graduating to arson, burning down a school bus garage in his hometown of Pocahontas, Iowa in 1960, a crime for which he served 20 months in prison. How was the directing process with Scott Walker? Only a dozen bodies were located. CINDY: Yep. This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Its by far the craziest transformation Ive had yet. We must find our commonalities through sharing our experiences, spreading awareness, and caring for one another. (inaudible) Cindy . Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. "In his mind there were good girls and bad girls.". Maybe they were different frames. Survivor Cindy, who is a married mother of three today. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansen's house on Old Harbor Road. Way down on the floor. And he contacts you. We recently landed an exclusive interview with Hudgens who talked about her reaction when she first read the script, how meeting the real Cindy Paulson helped inform her portrayal of the character, why it was important to her that audiences see Paulson as a real human being and not a stereotype, what she learned from working with experienced actors like Cage and Cusack who inspired her performance, how Walkers enthusiasm and energy kept the atmosphere on set upbeat despite the dark subject matter, and what she discovered about herself in the process of making the film. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. So, that was nice. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. However, she was never identified and Hansen died last month aged 75, while serving a 461-year sentence in Alaska. FLOTHE: Friday morning. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. We are all the same. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. She left the ADN in October 2018. CINDY: Nope. It was during this 30 month prison stint that he was diagnosed as bipolar with schizophrenic episodes, and wife number one filed for a divorce. FLOTHE: Really dark color. Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. Wife is shocked after husband of 15 years asks for permission to have an affair: 'I don't know what to do'. She had been engaging in sex work. It left me wanting to watch it over and over again even though Im in it. Did he only do a few takes or did he do as many as he felt he needed? In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. This looks black but its actually blue. When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. FLOTHE: Ah. I said, fine, we can do it in the car. Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. Darla had known that shed married a dedicated hunter, so when Robert had taken time away from the family, it was easy to explain away. Glenn took what the FBI had said along with Cindys account of what Robert had done to her, and he obtained a search warrant for his suspects dwelling. In the 1960s he moved to Anchorage and opened a bakery of his own in a strip mall at Ninth Avenue and Ingra Street. Like a little Datsun station wagon. What made you want to do it? Whether shed been taken to his house or not, in the end these women (or the known victims at least) wound up in the Alaskan wilderness. FLOTHE: Did you have conversation, then, with him on Friday? FLOTHE: About what time? And he had called me and I slept through it. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? But he had brown socks on. And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. CINDY: Yep. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and there's no telling how much longer he would've lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of '83. Often the family of these killers catch a ton of hell from the public, how could they possibly share their lives with a monster and not know it? FLOTHE: I have its kind of a picture book with different types of guns in it, OK. Would you take a look through that picture book and see if you see a gun that might be similar to the one that this man had? That was why [Hansen] kept telling me to lay down. FLOTHE: You also described the outside of the house. And he had cuffed one of my hands, and I was trying to get loose and he pulled out a gun. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. Hansen said that victim is the woman known to police as Eklutna Annie, a roughly 20-year-old brunette whose body was discovered in 1980 by electric workers repairing a power line outside Eagle River. 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